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29/Apr/01	請問如果EPC Shining 150 的綿羊, 維修零件是否很難找到?而大品牌(如yamaha, honda, suzuki等)的零件又是否較易找到?謝謝回應...From: lewis ngai kelefei@hotmail.com 不清楚香港有關的代理在零件上存貨是否充足。何不自己問一下呢？越流行的車款，每間車行都可能有少量消耗性零件存貨，即使冇，問行家借都很容易。即使冇原廠貨，也較多after-market部品可以使用，未必一定非要用原廠零件不可。但如果是結構性的零件，車行都需要每次去找代理拿貨。所以代理存貨是否齊全便是關鍵。
29/Apr/01	我的愛車是super four，已經抯咗5個月，技術上有少少進步，但係對於泊位方面始終掌握唔好，成日都有入得唔出得嘅情況，最慘就係唔想郁人吔架車，自己又唔夠力拉出架車，所以要麻煩其他等位嘅朋友幫忙。 1 請問有乜嘢秘袂可以改善泊位技術？ 2 有冇得換side架?這樣可不可以減低傾斜度? how much? From: Raku ryushin@hkstar.com 泊位唔乜秘技可言，功多自然藝熟。泊位時車身右旁邊要預留番少少位俾部車棟直走人便可。側架最好用番原裝，但你可以在側架底部墊厚少少令到部車棟正少少，但小心太直唔穩陣。你部車冇大架係咪S版？如果係普通版，配番個大架會好泊好多。
27/Apr/01	台鈴星艦150同 SUZUKI AN150，兩者除 o左價錢有分別外，另外還有怎麼分別呢？ (成35%之多)小弟對電單車不太熟識，衹可從品牌中選購 (如Suzuki...等)，小羊 (150c.c.) 當中又有那個好介紹呢？(小弟需穿凓西裝上班及駕駛此車的) 另小弟如考取到車牌後，應該買新車還是二手車好D呢？ (價錢約為 $8,000 至$20,000) ，我諗新車不用煩維修，二手則價錢平D及可操熟D手車，我應該點選購呢！ swidochao@hotmail.com 主要分別是made in Taiwan or made in Japan. 穿西裝騎車需要高風擋隔塵，免弄髒白恤衫，也要充足空間存放上衣及公事包，在車中最好有雨衣雨褲備用，免得羊毛西褲弄濕報銷。頭盔也不能隨身，需要放在車中。儲物量是閣下重要的考慮。如果唔想裝尾箱，唯有250以上的豪華綿羊方能有此能耐。建議找一臺二手的97-98舊款Majesty 250，售價約在兩萬五以下，雖不能存放兩頂大頭佛，但車頭的空間十分驚人。又不用每次泊車都要落車套才安心，實用之選。
27/Apr/01	Dear Sir, Do you have any comments for Honda PC800? I feel it contains good outlook, big rear mirror and Hi-Fi system. It can bring me driving-interest very much. However, I do not know its engine /mechanism in details. Would you pls. advise some comments for those area. On the other hands, believed that PC800 is phased out. Is it possible to buy a new bike in year 2001? If yes, what is the cost?I will looking forward for your prompt advice! Thanks so much. Best Regards, Fung nfung2@hotmail.com PC800's powerplant is in liquid-cool V2 Engine form, with hydraulic valve auto adjustment, producing around 58 horse power.....The smooth power output of PC800, plus heavy mass weight can't make power-hungry rider happy.well, spacious storage of it's rear trunk can swallow two full size helmet, which is wonderful only when there is no maxi-scooter yet on 1999 or before. From my personal point of view, the price of used PC800 in HK is very, very unrealisic, if a ten years old machine still asking for 35k to 55K, may be because there is no new model available in HK. 　 If you are looking for spacious bike with full weather protection, why don't you just buy AN400 or X-9 500(coming soon) ? Even new Majesty 250 with huge storage capacity can delivery more riding pleasure than PC800 in HK, for sure.
26/Apr/01	主持你好: 本人為新牌仔,須要掛「P」牌o個隻,現想買一部新車(鈴木Bandit 250),但對此車不熟識,請問此車的性能合新手操控嗎?有無代理呢?何處可以購得及車價多少?另新牌仔應該揸何種車較合適呢?謝謝!! 檸檬茶 lcy310@hotmail.com 香港鈴木電單車代理是ＳＢＳＴｅｃｈｎｏｌｏｇｙ鈴木科研www.sbs-technology.com 但Ｂａｎｄｉｔ２５０已經停產，所以找他們也沒有新貨。Ｂａｎｄｉｔ２５０為四衝程並列四汽缸設計，很適合對新手，馬力也十分足夠。此車在市面上並不難找，也可留意鈴木有否二手車出售。
25/Apr/01	今次來信係想問問老電既偷車情況嚴重乎？當中以乜型號為高危組別？買大綿羊又是否危危乎？其實單以輪胎鎖鎖車夠唔夠？又有冇其他防盜好方法？ From: Dennis 偷車一向都有。專業人士成架抬走，番去先慢慢拆鎖。冇話乜車係高危對象，只要架車熱門又靚仔，零件需求大便有機會俾人搞。即使買條千幾兩千蚊既粗鏈攬柱，一經點相，一樣照抬。運上祖國或東南亞又得，拆件轉售又得，套番個同款行車證係香港行街都重得！最好的防盜方法係唔好出靚車，泊位不定點不定時，車套加靚鎖再攬柱，再唔係推入屋企擺最好。係咪講完等於冇講？
24/Apr/01	主持你好, 本人乃新牌一名,現想購買vespa PX200代步(因只有這綿羊才有波轉)。又不知其性能、操控,可否述之。另最新PX200E為頭碟剎，昰否前者制動欠佳及有問題，仰或後者馬力加大了呢？此車之新車價都不算便宜，都要成＄2,6000左右,又唔係太捨得，咁請問二手車買唔買得過，如果買，揾車行定私讓好(因常看貴網頁，知道受害者唔少)，有乜二手車行好介紹，如果買二手要留意Ｄ乜？如果買新車，呢種車泊街會唔會俾人(狗)成架擔？我細佬以前架３仔sp也... 聽人講話架車Ｄ保養維修及零件都好平,又冇相熟車房,請問有冇Ｄ又老實又相宜嘅車房介紹吓(九龍區)。有Ｄ乜建議不妨一提小弟,衷心感謝。十五、二十的人 rvf400cc@sinaman.com Vespa鐵殼綿羊歷史悠久，勝在維修簡單，保養便宜，任勞任怨。改用碟剎只是潮流效應，因它頭輕尾重，掣動時較注重尾掣，但急剎時重踏迫力容易撩尾。所以養成「二段式剎車」的習慣會好D。即踏掣動板一下，放一下，再踏。目的是利用第一下踏板了解輪胎當時的極限，第二下踏板的力度便可較準確。也能防止意外鎖胎。Vespa鐵羊未聽過俾人搞，自己搞就有：) 九龍區可搵總代理奧士車行。
24/Apr/01	Hi ibike, I have been your reader since your web site launched. An interesting and informative motorcycle web site. Please keep on your good work. I suspect of being deceived. Here are something a shop recommended where I hope to have your professional comment on it. 1, refill engine oil for every 1500 m, a minumum requirement 2, a pair of tyre is only good for 1 year, and then it will harden and not 'bite ground' 3, a pair of Michelin racing tyre cost 3,500 4, a back mirror cost 550 thanks a lot gsxr750 biondi_t@hotmail.com Thanks for your appreciation.If your bike is GSX-R750, often ridden hard and pushing to the limit, then I will assume you are using the most expensive engine oil, best racing rubber, then for the ideal condition, you should replace the engine oil in such short period. A good pair of racing tires even last for only six month before the rubber has chance turn hard, so I don't think the shop is deceiving you. $3,500 for Michelin racing tyre, (Racing Pilot?) is not cheap, but still under acceptable range. Of course you may find a shop quoting less than three thousand dollars, it's all depends on their profit target and their sources. p.s.$550 = a pair of mirror is not expensive.
24/Apr/01	你好, 本人被一部私家車從後撞上,令我向前撞到前面的士. 當時我等左已經有五秒以上. 之後, 和協, 撞我個位願意賠償一切維修費, 我地兩方都簽了和議紙. 但個位司機一直採用拖字訣(搵到佢但係一直拖). 一星期後,我去西九龍交通部報案, 告佢不小心駕駛.請我家下可以做d乜? 1. 等差人搵到佢上庭? 2. 上庭我會唔會輸? 3. 如果我得勝, 我有乜方法可以索償到維修費? 3. 我係唔係一定可以索償到? 多謝多謝華仔上 jkoon@netvigator.com 從閣下的描述看來，私家車的確不對。雖然你有雙方「和議紙」，可以證明責任在對方，但你應該在事發後盡快報警備案。還有你撞上了前方的士，那的士司機是向你索償還是向私家車車主索償？如果是後者，那你又多一份有力證據。現今只有等差人做o野。但呢個係最被動最無奈又最無把握的選擇。因為唔知人地幾時完成調查，又唔知個官點判(D官唸o野方法唔同常人o架)。即使判閣下勝訴，定下賠償金額，但對方仍可一拖再拖唔俾，你只能循民事途徑追討賠償，又有排搞。所以當有輕微交通意外不涉及人命傷亡時，雙方的賠償協議應當場交收為上算。傾唔掂就當場報警。提款機四處都有，如果對方堅稱冇錢，夾佢搵人借錢都要盡快搞掂，為的便是避除日後夜長夢多。即使收o左錢，都要去報警備案，以免對方屈番轉頭。注意！以上內容全屬個人街頭式智慧，並不代表正統做法，也沒有任何法律建議的含意。鐵騎網誌對以上建議及評論，絕對不會負任何法律上的責任。
24/Apr/01	你好! 本人是新牌仔,一直都好鐘意RVF400,現在有以下問題想請教. 1:新牌仔適吾適合渣RVF400?因為我怕我渣唔到. 2:RVF400現在二手買幾多錢?95年 3:買RVF400時要留意什麼? 唔該!! FROM:阿豪 jacky1012@hknet.com 如果一定要揀400啡呤跑車，CBR400RR較RVF400適合新手使用。因低轉扭力輸出，坐姿，把手高度，熱量等因素結合起來，都是CBR400RR較友善。尤其是新手速度不應過高，對V4引擎構成很大熱量積聚，如強行高速行走散熱，又較易產生危險。有關二手價請參考私人轉讓的定價，或車主報告內的購入價。其實二手車每架狀態都不同，很難一概而論。個人覺得三萬元附近還算合理。購買時除了要檢查一般二手車項目外，我們還沒有聽過RVF400有甚麼特別項目需要注要。
22/Apr/01	Dear editor, I am riding a 1996 Honda Magna 250 (v-twin), and I have some questions wanted to know: 1) what is the horsepower and torque of my bike? 27ps/10,000rpm / 2.3kg-m/7,500rpm 2) what is the capacity of fuel tank? 11 Litre 3) what is its mass weight? Dry Weight 171 kg 4) do u know any article or website which is introducing magna 250? Did you check our Owners' report ? Thanks you! From Ken: "Lai Thomas" <yauwailai@hotmail.com>
20/Apr/01	你好! 本人剛出2個月的新街車之後呔最近被釘插入, 車呔鋪說不能補, 需換新呔. 我想問: 1. 什麼情況下車呔是不能補 2. 如只換一條不同呔紋的後呔, 會否有安全問題 3. 應如何選擇一條合適的後呔心急人上From: <tat_mei@sinatown.com> 如果破口近胎肚(胎壁)位置冇得補。如果破口直徑過大，冇得補。勉強補都唔可靠，好危險。換胎只要符合廠方建議的規格，一般行車不會有問題。但頭尾胎選用不同廠牌，會影響操控，如果講求彎向性能，最好唔好咁做。最怕一條Touring胎配一條Sport胎，因大家膠質、黏度和工作溫度都不同，操控性會大打折扣。
20/Apr/01	Subject: 懷舊綿羊小弟想買一部懷舊綿羊, (VESPA, LAMBRETTA)請問除了私人轉買之外, 仲有冇其他途徑好似專賣呢類車0既車行?有的話可否介紹一下? 另外, 買0既時有0羊要注意? From: "Ringo Chan" <chringo@netvigator.com> Lambretta在香港比較少有。Vespa則可在經銷偉士綿羊的車行找到二手車，例如灣仔利士周不時有二手車賣，好彩的話，幾千蚊都有交易。佢地會執一執先賣，應該OK。由於呢類鐵殼綿羊唔係管式車架設計，個鐵殼就係車架，所以要留意生銹情況。二衝程引擎損耗較大。好多舊車在冷車起動時都要搞一陣。買得呢類舊車預o左要跌d錢跟一跟，執下佢。
16/Apr/01	我想問下你應為ET8-150點樣呢??值唔值得買呢??? 佢同YAMAHA VINO BIANCO 125 邊個好呢??? YAMAHA VINO BIANCO 125 的新車又邊度有得買呢??? 唔該!!!!From: "亞勤" <lovev@netvigator.com> 經常見到有人提問：「xx車好唔好？買唔買得過？」其實問得好空泛。因為每人出車的目標和期望都不盡相同。一定要知道用途和期望，才可準確地評論。所以全視乎閣下的要求，才能評論ET-8 150是否買得過。我會說如求代步舒適，趣緻外型，多色選擇，尤其是對偉士有情意結，買得過。因為以150綿羊來說，同級之中ET8售價並不便宜。如只顧買車budget，唯一的鐵殼自動羊ET8不是首選。Vino Bianco 125 (DS)在排氣量輸蝕給ET8，但在車身尺碼，車重，座高方面均比ET8細小。視乎閣下的個人喜好，兩部車都是一個社交代步的好選擇。但奧士車行代理了偉士多年，維修人員都累積了豐富經驗，後勤方面信得過。如以長線考慮，我會揀ET-8。
16/Apr/01	Subject: 關於sv650s 您好: 本人係新牌仔一名,打算月底購買suzuki sv650s唔知呢部車適唔適合新仔渣呢? Eddy eddy0194@sinaman.com 雖然SV650S屬於容易掌握的車款，但對於新牌仔來說，是否合適實因人而異。如身形配合，開慢一點還可以。但如身型未能配合，一開始又要顧車又要顧馬路，會比較危險，也談不上是享受。 SV650較SV650S容易掌握，因為是街車款，把手較高。不過唔知重有冇現貨呢？你知呢期鈴木D車好好賣，手快有。自己好好考慮吧。
13/Apr/01	人在貴網頁得知一個名詞叫普利珠，但不知何解，請指教。一般行多少公里才要更換。更換的價錢又要多少。 C Y y26434@ctimail3.com 普利珠是幫助CVT自動變速箱作業的一項重要裝置，利用離心力的變化而改變行車的齒輪比率。當驅動軸的轉速越高，產生的離心力便越高，依附在驅動軸機機構上的普利珠便會益發向外「撐」，抵銷原來束管著它的彈簧，從而改變驅動皮帶的齒輪比率，達至轉波的效果。普利珠的壽命一般不會超過三年，請參閱車主手冊或請教車行。價錢唔會好貴，但人工貴。
13/Apr/01	Hello: Honda CB250 的前後呔氣多少磅呔氣 , Thank you . likimming likimming@ctimail3.com 對不起，不清楚CB250廠方建議的胎氣。不過在尾擔上應貼有建議胎氣？如果冇，以CB250的車重，前30磅尾32磅應該足夠。
12/Apr/01	你好!本人剛考到牌100%新手,因工作關係經常要週圍去.現想買部2手綿羊代步,但見買2手車有很多的投訴,小弟想知買2手車時要留意什麼??可否介紹有什麼好的牌子及型號,主要以慳為原則.那應該買150cc or 250cc 好呢??萬二分感謝 whyim whyim@sinaman.com 求實用抵用，講駕駛性能，冇得揀，只有Honda Freeway 250。第一代或第二代都掂！
12/Apr/01	敬啟者：貴網站是本人最喜愛的中文電單車網站，做得很出色，本人常瀏漣忘返，值得一讚！希望您們繼續努力！尤其近期增設的車主報告非常正！本人有幾點建議： 1)希望貴網站增設討論區，對網民而言更直接方便，好過去新聞組。 2)若貴網站增設本地電單車價單以及二手行情榜就更一流 3)再增加一些與海外電單車網站的Hyberlink就更好了。 4)假如有各區合法非法泊車地點介紹就更一流！祝貴網站蒸蒸日上讀者韓先生 alfredhon@hotmail.com 首先多謝閣下支持。車主報告實有賴各方車友肯傾囊分享自身經驗，反應之好實始料不及。借此機會再一次向各位車主至謝！閣下的寶貴建議十分有見地。但基於一些原因，暫時未能實現。增設討論區增設討論區，我們在設立信箱時已認真考慮過。由於每一新聞組都聚集了一班志同道合的中堅份子，經常出車見面，形成每一個新聞組都有些微不同的文化差異。資深版友都會對某一新聞組產生歸屬感，所以解答問題會份外落力。鐵騎網誌如再增加類似新聞組的討論區，會在角色上產生無謂重疊，浪費資源。另外一個重要考量是自出自入的新聞組，言論太過自由，要刻監察有否過份言論，恐怕我們沒有這時間。事實上去各大新聞組亦很方便，所以我們暫時都不會和現有新聞組「爭客」。二手行情其實在私人買賣中，「己售」的意義便是希望可提供一個參考行情。雖然真正成交價會有偏差，但如果原本售價是偏高的話，根本沒有人會打電話查詢。所以售出的車盤，多少都貼近市價。借此亦忠告各位有心放車的朋友，售價請不要脫離現實，無謂浪費大家時間。還有一些車友抱著一個錯誤的心態，以為落齊補品車價便可賣貴一點。先說補品未必人人喜愛，即使喜歡，補品的價值只限於增加賣車的吸引力，而不代表可以收番加添補品的成本。海外超連結在「常用資料」中有很多海外網站的超連結。如有心水推介，歡迎來信補充。各區泊位各區非法泊位要靠車友提供了。但安全的非法位一旦廣為人知，好快便會不再安全。所以出門去各區時，最好都是在新聞組私下問一問，看看有沒有最update的泊車貼士。
11/Apr/01	本人想買一部kymcoB&W250,但朋友話台灣羊的機件易壞,請問各界車主能否提供一些意見給本人，如能給與來電，萬二分感謝。勇 tcy4@hotmail.com 台灣綿羊在價錢及款式方面十分吸引，但在耐用方面仍和日本製造有差別，希望差距能逐漸收窄。B&W 250仍是新款車，在此階段未能妄下定論。其實不論是日本貨或其他國家的製成品，都需要良好保養。另你沒有留下電話號碼，又如何來電？
11/Apr/01	以下是我的個人經歷: 我最初學電單車是因為我有一個騎哈利的鄰居, 我覺得十分有型. 不過那鄰居越玩越過份, 很多時連同十餘駕不同款式電單車於深夜駛入屋苑停車場, 由於家住新界北區低密度住宅區, 所以他們所發出的氣喉引擎聲十分annoying, 加上人聲嘈雜, 十分滋擾. 前晚更於停車場維修其電單車,問題似乎是引擎撻不著, 多次撻車的隆隆巨響終於在凌晨三時平靜下來. 後來得知十樓(頂層)的住客也受滋擾, 真感無奈, 由於大家乃點頭之交, 也不好投訴吧, 只叮囑管理員向其反映. 我覺得騎電單車可以很優雅, 犯不著要乞人憎, 也不一定要粗鄙, 我就認識及眼見很多斯文沉默的騎士, 他們比其他飛仔騎士更有型. 在此希望所有騎士behave yourself,為電單車建立一個正面而健康的形象吧! Lisa lizfychan@sinagirl.com 深夜仍發出噪音擾人清夢，點解唔報警？沒有滅聲器的死氣喉霹靂啪o勒，又乾涸又吵耳。咁大個人做o野應有分寸，既然佢地唔識唸，亦唔駛客氣。反正佢地都唔知邊個報警。為保鄰居和陸而強忍，佢地唔會知道，亦唔會領情。
09/Apr/01	Dear editor, I would like to kow if I pass the mandatory test in Hong Kong School of Motoring. Can I buy a motorcycle and drive on the road? Long time ago, the people can drive a motorcycle on the street after passing the written test. I am not a big person. My size is weight 135 pounds and height 5.3". What do you think which models of sport motorcycle is good for me regardless the price? We look forward to hear your reply! Best Regard, Patrick Hui patrick@infotronic-int.com From our understanding the answer is yes if you are older than 23, but we will not suggest you to learn on your own. Beside the expensive premium you need to pay, it is much more difficult to pass the driving test, cos no one will tell you how to fulfill the examination requirements (totally different from the reality). Before you get a full driving license, you are not allowed to ride your bike on highway, and the "L" driving license is only valid in daytime, well, at least before midnight. Any sportbike which is 4 stroke engine and the displacement is below 250cc should be fine for new comers. Keep away from two stroke machine, never think about it. Good Luck!
08/Apr/01	你好！本人剛剛考到電單車牌，急不及待想買一架電單車，但是不知應該買那類型。聽別人意見，一開始應買二手車同埋街車。本人十分喜歡巡航型，請問應買那類型？本人亦要向金錢低頭，budget 大約 $20,000 左右。其實仲想問下 Honda Rebel 250 係咪只適合女仔揸，如果本人(男)揸會唔會好怪？Honda Rebel 250 新車及二手車大約相差幾多錢呀？ Rap raptsui@magicaldesk.com 首先恭喜閣下成功考牌並即將加入鐵騎一族。新牌仔冇話一定要出乜o野車，但因技術所限及為安全計，細馬力的街車是一個很好的開始。Honda Rebel 250是一臺非常友善又可靠的小巡航車，新車約三萬，二手價幾千起至到萬餘元都搵到。但睇你搵緊DragStar 250，估你都係貪樣靚啦：) 不過二萬蚊「畢直」應該唔夠。冇人話過Honda Rebel 250係女仔車，只是一般女仔都能應付自如咁解。祝成功買車，識多點好車友，OK?
04/Apr/01	本人很希望購買一架有蓋綿羊，但剛剛看過貴網的報導，知道寶馬的C1只可單騎，很是失望，因為我選購電單車，雙騎是最主要的取決原因。（而且C1原先的雙騎設計亦不好）記得貴網曾報導過有另一有蓋綿羊Benelli Adiva 150，本人亦甚感興趣，請問此車可向甚麼車行訂購？還有其他牌子車款可選擇嗎？如果不方便在網上列出車行名字，請用電郵答覆？多謝指教！讀者亞Rick rick@freeforum.org 目前香港仍未有正式代理。其實鐵騎網誌曾在上年中向意大利廠方接觸，嘗試了解申請做代理的資格及條件。經過詳細考慮後暫時擱置了申請計劃。原因之一是到岸價再加稅款，恐怕香港市場及國內市場會不能接受。如果閣下真係咁喜愛有蓋綿羊，我們可以替你訂一臺，但所有手續及驗車都要你自己跟進。也可以找找日本改裝店的資料，他們有250豪華綿羊的改裝材料及部品。詳情可向有代訂服務的車行查詢。
01/Apr/01	Dear Host Complain on Private Seller First, please forgive me for not submitting my letter in Chinese character since I don't know Chinese typing. Sorry! Ok, let's talk about my complaint, Recently I have saw an ad. in your web site and the owner is Mr. Chan (Mobile 9347 xxxx), who claim he own a 89 Kawasaki GPZ 305. I was interested in buying his car so I ask him out to see his bike. After a test drive I find this bike is ok and set the price $3100 HKD for him to consider, he accept finally but then he said that this bike was not purchase using his name whilst is under the name of his friend's. He try to convince me to payoff all the money at once to him and he take out a the bike's license and a application form of transportation department with a name signed on it. I was not smart enough at that time so and I gave him half of the car price which is $1,500 HKD and took the document. After I went back home and talk to my friend he told me that why not asking that Mr. Chan to ask the guy who really own the bike out and deal with him. After the talk from my friend I start to wonder if this is a trap so I phone this guy and ask him to take the guy who really own the bike out on the other day and do all the ownership transfer application in the transportation department together but this guy start to convince me no need to do in that way and ask me to believe him and talk to me when he will collect the rest of the money. I then found out this really likely to be a trap and tell him I would like to with-draw the deal if he cannot ask the really owner out to do the ownership transfer application with me. At first he tell me that is ok and said he is busy at that time cause some of his relative was dead and he will call me back very soon. On the other day, he call me and told me that his friend (the real owner of that bike) said that he won't go out and at the same time he (Mr. Chan) had already gave the $1500HKD to the owner cause the bike was actually owned by two of them. At that time I really sure I was inside a trap so I try to beg him to give me the money and also I offer to pay them $300HKD for the compensation of not buying the bike. He then said that he will have to talk to his friend again and will call me back later. After a while he phone me back and said that his friend won't give a dollar back to me cause that was deposit and Mr. Chan at that time even try to convince me again to buy that bike first and sell it out immediately if I don't like it. I think he is really a good lier at that time and also he said that the money I first gave him was go to his friend now and he had nothing to do about it now. After a numbers of back and fore deal he finally ask me if I would like to raise the compensate money from $300HKD to $750HKD which is half of $1500HKD that I have already paid. At that moment what can I say ! so I agree with a lot of regret. On the other day I took all those document to exchange half of the money that I had paid already which is $750HKD and at the same time listening to that Mr. Chan talking about how much help he had gave me talking to his friend. After all , I have lost $750HKD to paid an dis-honest guy for keeping a few pages of document overnight. What do you say, worth it or not. From: "Andy Wong" <huge9843@yahoo.com> Hi Andy, Yes sometimes the guy approaching you may not be the bike owner, but that not means they must be dishonest. I bought a bike years before, and is also dealing with owner's representative, no problem in my case. The procedures you need to carry out in order to protect yourself includes: 1. make sure the guy you dealing with is the authorized representative of bike owner (letter of appointment etc) 2. check the bike registration document, the engine and frame number are matched with the bike you see. 3. walk away if you feel uncomfortable at anytime, of course before you pay any deposit. 4. only pay a small deposit to the seller, while you needs time to arrange the insurance policy 5. pay the balance after you completed the ownership transfer application. 6. keep all transaction record, contact information for future references. From my understanding of your case, my opinions are as follow: 1. once you paid the deposit(at that time you already know the guy is not the owner), that's mean you already entered into a sales contract with the representative. 2. if you have the bike registration document and the signed transferal form (assumed the signature is correct), why don't you go to transportation department to transfer the bike ownership? 3. as there are no evidence at the moment that they are fraud to you, if you want to withdraw from the contract, you are not entitled to get the deposit back. As you already get back half of the money, treat this as an lesson and never paid before the deal is completed.
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